Situated mid-block on a relatively quiet street just minutes from Times Square, the Algonquin Hotel is the perfect site for me to meet friend and writer, Dr. Seymour Garte. “Sy” is author of Where We Stand: A Surprising Look at the
I stayed at the Algonquin back in 2005 during a two-day stopover on the way to
And of course there is Matilda the cat - check out her story through the link.
Apparently accustomed to taking the crazy
He’s already ordered a Martini, and wanting to impress my esteemed colleague, I order the same. After all, it’s
Steve Prosapio: Writing a book is a large undertaking. Was there a single moment that you committed to it, or did the feeling evolve over time? Tell me about your process.
Sy Garte: Actually I was approached by the publisher, which was looking to expand their offerings from mostly business books into science. I had been thinking off and on about a book describing the positive changes that have gone on in the environment, but I had not been serious about it until I got the query from an agent (I know, this is the reverse of the normal situation.)
SP: Recruited by an agent? Impressive! What is your writing process? Do you handwrite and make notes or do you always work at the computer? Do you go outside or inside only? Outlines or no?
SG: A non fiction book like mine is different than a fiction book because of the great deal of research and documentation that must be done. This is especially true for a book with a controversial theme like mine. If I say that air pollution has been decreasing around the world for decades, I had better have the facts to back it up. I probably spent a third of the time doing the research, which included lots of online searching, but I also used lots of book and published material. It turns out the internet is great for current information, but not so hot for historical stuff.
I tended to work on one chapter at a time, writing on the computer in bursts, followed by long breaks. I did use outlines, and lists, and of course a tremendous amount of editing rough drafts. Like in fiction, there were times when the book wrote itself, and other times when I just had to struggle to find the right way to put the words down. Some chapters were truly awful after the first draft, and some were eliminated.
SP: How long did it take you to write Where We Stand? Were there any periods during its writing that you stalled?
SG: I spent a full year writing the book. I started with pulling together some material I had already, modifying it, and using that as a base. I wrote about half the book during the summer, and then spent three months filling in, editing and trying to put it all together as a coherent whole.
SP: What has been the most challenging part of having a book on the market?
SG: For me, the marketing has been a struggle. I had no idea how tough it is to get a new book from a new author noticed. I have done lots of radio interviews, some TV, and of course some online marketing, and the book has done OK, but I was surprised at the amount of time I spent on the book in the two or three months after publication.
SP: Are you writing another book, if so, what is it about? How far along are you with it and when do you hope to have it completed?
SG: I am. It is on a totally different topic, but one that I have also been interested in as a scientist for some time. The subject is the scientific basis (or lack thereof) of racial categorization. I think it is a timely topic thanks to Senator Obama, and there are not many books out there that cover the issue from the population genetics angle which I will focus on. I have just started thinking about this, although I do have (as for my first book) lots of material in the form of research papers, slide talks and even internet articles that I will use as the basis for the book, as well as for a proposal to a publisher.
SP: In your first chapter you write “When different experts say things that seem completely contradictory, how is it possible to judge the truth?” – Nowhere more so than climate change do we get more mixed messages. What’s going on?
SG: Not a simple question Steve. As I say in the book, the best bet if you are not an expert in the area (and I am not) is to follow the consensus opinion, once you have satisfied yourself that ulterior motives other than good science are not involved. This is not always easy to do. Consensus has been wrong many times, so it is always important to keep an open mind. As far as climate change, the evidence is pretty strong that we are in a warming trend and that human production of greenhouse gases are contributing to this. What we don’t know is how bad things will be. I will say, that it is very clear that historically speaking cooling trends have been much more deadly for humanity and the Earth ecosystems than warming trends, but that is not much use for the current unknown situation.
SP: What 3 simple things can people do in our daily lives to help the environment?
SG: I think the key issue is to do all we can to use and promote alternate energy sources, from wind and solar power to the use of cellulose based biofuels, and all other potential non-fossil fuel burning sources of energy.
Although I document in the book the fact that we have made great progress in saving endangered species in the US, we must do all we can to move faster on saving the Amazon and other rain forests.
And finally we need to avoid allowing changes in the regulatory framework that has been so vital to the recovery of our planet from the brink of catastrophe 50 years ago. Efforts to roll back the Clean Air act and other such successful laws should be strongly resisted.
I know this is not exactly the question you asked, since none of these things usually fall into the category of daily life. Instead they are mostly political issues, and I think people should continue, as they have been doing for decades, to be involved in political environmental activism.
Of course saving water and energy when possible is very useful, and there are many books and articles that focus on this aspect of personal individual steps that people can take. And it is true that what might seem to be a small thing, like turning off lights and recycling the trash can be magnified tremendously when everyone does it.
SP: Your book covers more than just Global Warming, what other threat in today’s world do you feel isn’t being given enough attention? What do people need to know of it?
SG: We have made tremendous strides in human health all over the globe, and have seen a steady rise in life span, nutrition and health over the past decades. But we are facing some new potentially serious challenges, which include the obesity epidemic that threatens to reverse some of these gains. We must also deal with the issue of the emergence of new diseases and the resurgence of old ones like TB.
SP: Having battled an eating disorder myself, I can attest to the obesity problem as well as the anorexic epidemic among young people. Okay, so speaking of young people, in High School, we were required by our chemistry teacher to read “Silent Spring.” You mention its positive effects in your book. Why shouldn’t I hate my teacher for having made me read it?
SG: Silent Spring is not only the first, but also one of the best of the environmental books. Dr. Carson was a scientist (like me) and not a journalist or politician, and her arguments are scientific and rational. She identified the problem, found its cause and suggested solutions. I have no idea why you hated it Steve, maybe you were too young to appreciate it.
SP: Well that, and the DDT situation had already been eliminated and that at 17 years old in the 80’s we had zero power to affect governmental policy. It probably didn’t help that the teacher refused to answer questions other than to tell us to read our textbook, or that his Extra Credit involved attending hockey games since he was also the hockey coach. Let me have another Martini and I’ll REALLY tell you what I think of Mr. McPartlin. Anyway, enough of the literary questions. Tell us what it’s like to live in New York City.
SG: Well I am Nu Yawka by birth, so I have always felt natural living in the city. In fact I never understood what all those nice Midwesterners meant after they moved to NY, when they would say that they loved all the excitement and energy of NY. To me it was just the way it was. Then I lived in the
Steve Prosapio: On that note, thanks for appearing on my blog, Sy. I hope that people take the time to read your book and educate themselves on some of the planetary issues we’re dealing with.
Sy will be able to check in today to answer any specific environmental questions you may have. The news yesterday/today involving the collapsed antarctic ice shelf occurred after my interview. I encourage you to leave questions and/or comments; we’ll be raffling a copy of his book on Friday to those that do!
Anonymous
March 26 2008, 16:44:36 UTC 4 years ago
Great interview
I really enjoyed the interview guys. Steve, you do have a natural gift.Here's my question for Sy... Do you find the stance by the developed countries hypocritical? We were aloud to develop without environmental restrictions, and now seek to impose restrictions on the rest of the "undeveloped" countries. I imagine our rise to economic supremacy would not have been so swift were it not for us filling the planet with CO2 and CFCs. Do you see a way for the developed nations to somehow support these countries desire for growth without them destroying the environment?
Don't worry about giving me a free copy, Steve. I'll gladly buy one.
All the best in the future Sy.
March 26 2008, 16:54:48 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Great interview
Thanks but WHO ARE YOU?!?!NOTE TO ALL: Make sure when leaving an anonymous comment, to leave your name so we can put you in the raffle for the free book! (leave your name even if you don't want one!)
;-)
- S
March 26 2008, 17:28:56 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Great interview
Thats an excellent question. After world War, the enormous growth of the West went in fact largly unimpeded. The result was an environmental disaster much worse than anything we face now. The growing environmental movement in the US, slowly at first, and then gaining more and more momentum was able to convince lawmakers that something had to be done. The Clean Air Act and numerous other laws were passed, the EPA was created, and as doumented in detail in the book, all these advances have had a major positive impact. Twenty years later, the same process repeated itself in Eastern Europe. The challenge now is to encourage the new growing economies to follow through with the same sorts of protections and restriction.The book discusses all of these issues in far more depth.
Anonymous
March 26 2008, 18:40:45 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Great interview
Sorry Steve and Sy, it's Geoff Edwards....I'll pick up a copy, Sy.
Anonymous
March 26 2008, 17:14:36 UTC 4 years ago
resource useage
I live on the high plains where the Ogallala aquifer is depleted by more than a foot a year due, in large part, to modern farming techniques like center-pivot irrigation. The latest new money-making idea is any crop that will produce ethanol, the alternative fuel darling of the politicians. I find the whole plan entirely unsustainable... when it comes to an already-precarious water issues, the idea literally sucks. If you had to pick one alternative energy method, what would it be? And why do you feel it's the most sustainable?Dani
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March 26 2008, 17:35:22 UTC 4 years ago
Re: resource useage
DaniYou raise a really important point. The rush to "Grow fuel" has led to lots of problems, both environmental and economic. However, I think that with time (this has been a problem only for a few years) the best solution, which will probably not be corn, will take over. Good progress has been made converting cellulose to ethanol, and there are many sources of cellulose, like switchgrass, that do no require the intensive agricultural resouces of corn.
My favorite alternate energy source is wind power. With the high price of petroleum, and with improvements in technology, wind power has become economical and profitable. Once built, wind turnbines use no resources, are clean, and efficient. There has been a tremendous surge of wind power plants in this country and in Europe, and I belive that will continue.
March 26 2008, 17:46:47 UTC 4 years ago
Re: resource useage
...and that ain't no hot air, folks!;-)
Great question, Dani. Thanks for the answer, Sy.
March 26 2008, 17:45:44 UTC 4 years ago
Another amazing interview!
Steve, another excellent interview with a lovely setting, and an erudite author! I bought Sy's book for a friend's b-day presenta and it was extremely well received. I would LOVE to win my own copy of it...We authors are poor, y'know!
I liked the bit about Matilda the cat too...
Dana
March 26 2008, 17:56:04 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Another amazing interview!
Thanks Dana!Anonymous
March 26 2008, 20:40:47 UTC 4 years ago
Sy's interview
I must say - you've done it again. Great info. I guess it's hard to argue with scientific facts and research. I can't think of a question right off the bat but if I do, I'll come back and ask. I have only been to the City once or twice that I can remembber and don't remember much about it. My father was stationed at West Point and right before he retired from the Army, he started seminary school and we had to go to NYC for something - and I was maybe 11 or close to 12 when we went into the city and thereby the memories are clouded.I love the look of the hotel - kind of reminds of the Eloise type of hotel which always seemed like a cool place to visit.
Thanks again for a wonderful interview and an interesting subject matter - E :)
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March 26 2008, 21:17:58 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Sy's interview
Thanks E!Anonymous
March 26 2008, 21:57:36 UTC 4 years ago
BioFuels
Great inteview, Steve. Really enjoyed your setting. Hello, Sy. Jamie here. Had to stop by before heading back to work. I already own a very lovely copy of the book, so if I win, send it to Dana. :)This question/comment is more a matter of opinion. Anyone is free to weigh in here.
There's been a big push for the generation of more biofuels in the past several years, specifically corn-based, but more recently soy-diesel. I know most people don't pay much attention the effects this is having (other than ethanol-containing gas is a little cheaper than "pure" gas), but living in the "corn belt", it's quite apparent to me that this is not the answer to our dependence on oil. The govt. has been pumping money into building ethanol plants and bio-diesel plants, which actually lose money (more and more because corn prices are SKY-high). Few people have the training to run them or work in them, which noone foresaw apparently. The college I work for is starting up a new ethanol plant-worker training program next year. I digress (what's new?)!
So here's the problem I see. Due to the demand from the ethanol plant, the price of corn has more than quadrupled in 5 years. Farmers are planting corn and little else to get these prices (can't blame them). That leaves less farmland dedicated to other crops. We're starting to use up our wheat surplus for the first time in...forever (don't know the exact number of years). The price of wheat has gone up 5 times it's pre-ethanol "revolution" prices. Soybeans have tripled. This is in 5 years. This isn't just inflation. I'm afraid a food crisis is on its way. Cattle ranchers can't afford corn to feed their cattle and are really struggling. Many have stopped producing meat. This is a snowball effect. And fuel keeps being added to this fire.
I know switch grass and some other alternatives to grain crops have been suggested in producing the ethanol, but I don't care how fast the stuff grows, demand for fuel will always surpass growth of plants. We need a real solution to meet our energy needs and this ethanol "plan" is making our crisis worse or at least shifting it into a whole other "field", in my opinion. I'm sure there will be additional fall out from the push for crop-based ethanol, besides high food prices.
Does anyone else see this as a huge problem or am I just panicking because I see the crop prices on the news everyday? And they go up. Every single day.
March 26 2008, 22:49:56 UTC 4 years ago
Re: BioFuels
Hey Jamie - thanks for stopping by. I won't even attempt to touch the science of this question/issue. My question though is if those prices (are you talking about "futures?") are increasing because of increases to fossil fuel prices or in addition to them?As for the political aspects of this situation, I've noticed that government, more than any other organization, produces policy in both cautious as well as copycat ways. So rather than take what Brazil has done with Ethanol and improve on it, or use their process and adjust it, they merely copycat their efforts and foist an artificial solution (that is backed up by corn lobbies) on the public by throwing money at the problem.
Any creativity involved in coming up with unique solutions are squashed because they're high risk and no one wants to be left holding the bag when the media reports the efforts to the public.
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 01:57:12 UTC 4 years ago
Re: BioFuels
Jamie here again.I agree, Steve and Lisa. Our government is throwing money away on a temporary "solution" that isn't a solution at all because it satisfies various lobbies. We need something entirely new that doesn't require the burning of hydrocarbons. But there's no money to be made in real solutions, so until we have a crisis, I doubt things will change.
I'd never heard about our program's similarity to Brazil's. Very interesting. Especially since they have much less farm land than we do. It surprises me that they grow crops for fuel purposes. Is that what they're doing?
I'm not sure how many people not living in the corn belt realize what's going on in farm country. CRP land (crop reduction program) is at a low. More and more land is used to grow crops instead of sitting dormant, which is fine, but eventually all the arable land will be used. Also, land prices are insane. 10 years ago, good farm land was around $300 an acre. Now it's as high $1200 an acre. I just see this spiraling out of control. The farmers are happy about it, so they don't see the downside. Urbanites probably don't realize the impact.
Futures are increasing, but if you live in farm country, the news displays the going rate for various crops. Many farmers store their crops in an elevator (paying a storage fee) or store their crops in grain bins, then when the prices get to the level they want, or they need money, they sell their grain. (we get the cattle and hog sale report around here too) So futures are climbing, but so are the everyday prices the farmers are getting.
Don't know if that makes sense. I've had a long day and I'm pretty brain dead. And yet I contribute my 2 cents and then some.
March 27 2008, 02:55:12 UTC 4 years ago
Re: BioFuels
To be hones, I don't know all the details of Brazil's program but they've taken so much flack for destroying the rain forrests down there that I think their Ethenol plan is propped up as signs that "they're trying."The problem as I've heard it with Ethenol is that it not only takes away a food source, it takes a huge amount of coal to fuel the Ethenol plants and coal pollutes the environment as much or more than fossil fuels!
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 07:11:36 UTC 4 years ago
Re: BioFuels
Jamie, I think Brazil uses sugarcane, which is much more efficient source for ethanol than corn. It's not entirely without its downside, as this is leading to even greater clearing of the Amazon, and of course losing that ecosystem (often called "Earth's Lungs") contributes to global warming.Other Lisa
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 01:10:44 UTC 4 years ago
Re: BioFuels
I do! From what I know, corn (and soy) are extremely inefficient for producing ethanol. It takes a lot of energy to produce them, and as you've stated, once you start valuing food as "fuel" the prices go up. It's not just you who is concerned about this. It's a big, big problem with corn-based ethanol, and a lot of people are talking about it.From my amateur perspective, I'd say push for increased fuel efficiency standards, plug-in hybrids and increased energy efficiency/conservation measures in general. Did you know that California's rate of energy consumption has remained flat since the 70s? Few other states can make this claim. And it's not like we are suffering here from it!
There's a lot that can be done with simple, unglamorous measures like conservation and efficiency, IMO. But I'm sure Sy will have more to say on this!
Other Lisa
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 01:12:58 UTC 4 years ago
Wonderful Interview!
Steve, I second Jeff (?) - every one of these interviews has been wonderful. You are really good at this.Sy, I have your book in my Amazon queue - if I don't win (and I never win), I'll get it the old fashioned way. With credit, in an e-store.
Oh, and Steve - belated happy birthday! Hope you are feeling better!
Other Lisa
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 02:07:50 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Wonderful Interview!
I don't have any questions. Just wanted to say that the interview was well done. Good interplay and lots of info I could use. Now I want to go to New York...Good job, Steve. And nicely answered, Sy.
Beth
March 27 2008, 02:56:28 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Wonderful Interview!
Thanks Beth!March 27 2008, 02:39:28 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Wonderful Interview!
Hey Lisa - thanks for stopping by. I hope you win!Anonymous
March 27 2008, 02:31:27 UTC 4 years ago
Excellent Interview
Steve, I enjoyed your interview with Sy. Informative and fun at the same time.The book is interesting and so was the process he used.
Thanks for doing this.
John P.
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 03:08:31 UTC 4 years ago
Comment on the Interview with Sy Garte
Steve,Very good interview. I need to get out and buy Sy's book, since it does not seem to be in our library system.
James Rafferty (http://blog.humancomm.com)
Anonymous
March 27 2008, 17:33:30 UTC 4 years ago
March 27 2008, 17:37:25 UTC 4 years ago
thanks!
James, John, Jules, thanks all for stopping by!John are you the John from Alpine or another (want to include you in the raffle tomorrow)?